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In this episode, I am questioning why in 2022 the ably different community is still finding it hard to obtain a higher education. So Come Roll With Me!
Description of Image: Black background On the left is an African American female with a white off the shoulder shirt in a wheelchair. Then Queens On A Roll in Gray Letters with a purple outline with a crown on the Q. The word Roll looks like a wheelchair and the word podcast in Gray Letters with a purple outline in all four corners
In this episode, I am questioning why in 2022 the ably different community is still finding it hard to obtain a higher education. So Come Roll With Me!
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This is Latavia here, and today I decided to do
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this episode alone because I am just so pissed off.
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So this episode is called Why Are We Still Here?
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So let's roll.
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So I am so sick and tired of being sick and tired of
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colleges not giving us the accommodations that
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we need to be successful in school.
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So one of my friends called me the
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other day, and she's just so disheartening, and
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it brought back some feelings for me because
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I went through this, and she's having a
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difficult time getting her accommodations through school.
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Now, why is this happening in 2022?
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I went through the same thing from 2010 to 2016.
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Why is this still going on?
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So she explained to me that she hasn't been able
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to get the proper accommodations so that she could be
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successful in school, and it's just been a disaster.
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And my heart went out to her.
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So she gave me some examples of what's been going on.
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So, for one, the professors have not been talking
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to her in a professional manner, and I don't
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understand how they're able to get away with this.
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It's just so absurd to me.
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So she said one of her professors said
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to her, this is not high school.
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We cannot give you those accommodations.
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I cannot give you those accommodations.
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And so you just need to go back home.
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And then in an art class of hers, she told the professor
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that she needed an aide to help her in the classroom.
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So the professor said, okay, no problem.
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It took them forever to get her the aide, but
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once they finally got her the aide, the professor said
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to her, okay, your aide is here now.
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You could go home, and you don't have to be in class.
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What is that for a professor to say to a student?
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She wanted to take the class because she
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wants to be immersed in the educational experience.
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She thought the class would be fun.
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A nice reprieve from all the
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hard studying that she had to do.
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What is that for a professor to say to a student?
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And how do colleges think that this
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is okay conduct to have?
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I don't understand it, and it makes no sense
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to me, because what people don't realize is that
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we have a lot to juggle as it is.
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Some of us still have medical needs that we
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need to tend to because of our disability, mobility
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issues that we need to tend to.
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And then on top of that, we wanna go to college.
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We're in college, but then we have to worry
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about getting the same accommodations as everyone else.
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It doesn't make sense.
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That is a lot for one person to juggle and
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if you had to juggle it, I'm sure you wouldn't
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be able to withstand all the nonsense, because, like I
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said, again, we have medical health issues.
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So if we don't maintain those issues, we
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can't even think about going to college.
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So we have to maintain our health.
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On top of that, we have to get a 3.8
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3.9 GPA, depending on the major that you go into.
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And then you have to make sure
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that the college gives you accommodations.
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That is too much pressure for one person to bear
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And it's sad, it's sad that it's still going on,
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because I had to experience this myself.
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And in that emotion, it makes you
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feel like, I just want to quit.
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None of this is worth it.
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I don't need to go through this.
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Let me just stop going to school.
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And we don't want people to have
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that kind of feeling at all.
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It's not a nice feeling at all.
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So when she came to me with this, my heart just
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broke, because I was like, I was in that same place.
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I felt like giving up.
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And I said to her, you can't give up.
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There's a way you could fight the system.
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You just got to know how to navigate and go through it.
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I promise you it's gonna be worth it at the end.
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But she just wanted to give up, and I understand it.
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I think one of the reasons why going
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through college is so difficult is because the
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IDEA, which is the Individuals with Disabilities Education
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Act of 1990, affords us the opportunity to
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have a free, equal, and equitable education, right?
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But colleges don't fall under that.
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After we get out of school, it's all about
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the ADA, and the ADA, which is the American
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with disabilities act lets us get into the facility, access
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the facility, and gives us work accommodations.
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But it doesn't address college, which it
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needs to, it needs to address college.
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And colleges need to be mandated to give us the
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services that we had on our IEP through college.
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Because let's face it, what I find absurd is
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the fact that we needed those services that are
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on the IEP to be successful in school, that
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they don't follow us through college.
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If we needed them to be successful back
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then, we need them to be successful now.
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The accommodations that we need just don't go away.
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It just doesn't miraculously resolve itself.
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We still need those things to be successful.
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And some of the things that we need are so simple.
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A desk to sit at so we can write notes, a note taker.
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If we can't write, what else do we need?
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An accessible bathroom.
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Some of these accommodations are so simple.
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Everyone, that you're sitting there probably thinking
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to yourself, well, why don't they have
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these things already on college? Guess what?
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They don't have them because you don't
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see enough of us going to college.
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But we don't want to go to college because we
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don't want to have to deal with these things.
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On the other hand, we know that in order for us
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to be successful and to go somewhere in life now, we
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live in a society where we need to get a higher
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education to be able to get a job.
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So it's like a Catch 22.
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You either have to go through all the
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heartache and all the headaches to get there,
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or you just say, I give up.
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And I understand if you want to
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choose the latter option of giving up.
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It's just too hard, and it shouldn't have to be this
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hard in the 21st century, where we have all of this
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technology to help us maintain and live our best lives.
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We have enough technology out there.
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There's lifts, there's tables that go up and down.
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There's so much technology out here to help us.
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It just doesn't make sense; to show you that these
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things have been going on even back then.
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When I was going through school, I remember one day
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my mom took me to a doctor's appointment, and she
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said to a lady next to her, boy, I'll be
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so glad when my daughter gets out of school, because
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then I won't have to deal with fighting for accommodations
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and fighting for things that she needs.
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And the lady turned to her and said, what do
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you mean you'll be so glad when it's over with?
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You have to go through the same battle in college.
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So my mom said, Come again?
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Excuse me?
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She said, yeah, I have two daughters who
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are disabled going through college right now, and
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I still need to advocate for them because
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colleges don't mandate that they need those services.
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So you still have to fight.
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It really makes no sense.
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And another thing that's so disheartening is
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because the services are not mandated. Colleges
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It gives off this air of
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like, we're doing you a courtesy.
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We're doing you a favor to
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help you maintain in our college.
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So you should be thankful.
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Why do we need to feel thankful?
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Because you gave us basic human rights.
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Honestly, a table that we should be able to sit
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at is something that should be in every classroom.
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They should already have them ordered, but because it's
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not mandated and they're not made to do these
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things, they're like, Listen, this is a part of
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us trying to show you that we're diverse, and
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we include you in everything that's going on.
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But that's not necessarily the case.
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I remember this individual went away to college.
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They needed help with basic needs, putting on shoes.
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So And this is another problem.
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Medicaid at the time did not want to pay
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for someone to go on campus with them so
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that they could help with those basic needs.
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So they went to the college, and they asked the
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college, do you have someone that can help me?
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The college said no.
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So at that point, they were forced
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to go to class without shoes on.
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That is crazy and that is absurd.
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Something that ablebodied people are able to do, which
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is go away and experience that whole college experience
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of being on your own without your parents around,
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that sense of independence they weren't able to do.
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I remember when I wanted to go away to get that
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same experience, and I found out that I couldn't go away.
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I really, really, really, wanted to go to a historically black college
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at the time when I was first searching for colleges.
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So of course, my mom started searching, and she
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heard one day on KISS FM Radio that this guy
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was going to be talking about HBCUs.
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So she called in and she said, my
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daughter really wants to go to an HBCU.
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Can you help me?
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Because she's gonna need
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some accommodations because she's disabled.
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So the guy took down our information.
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He said, okay, what accommodations
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is she going to need?
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I'll research it for you, and I'll get back
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to you if I find any information out.
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So months passed, and when I say months passed
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and when he finally got back to us, he
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said, unfortunately, I am so sorry, but the colleges,
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all of the HBCUs cannot accommodate your daughter, so
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she would not be able to attend an HBCU.
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I was crushed. And why
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I was crushed? because I
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wanted that going away experience.
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I wanted to be independent from my mom. You know
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Everyone wants to experience that.
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And here I could not experience that in
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a place where I wanted to go because
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they didn't have any accommodations for me.
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So I was kind of, in a sense, forced to stay
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home, forced to commute an experience that I didn't want.
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I am grateful for it now because I see that you know
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I didn't have to pay as much for school.
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I still feel like in some way I
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was robbed of an experience that most of
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my counterparts, able body counterparts, get to experience you know
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if that's something they want to experience.
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I didn't have the opportunity for
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that because of my disability.
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And so this is another thing that bothers me as well.
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Even though we're out here living our lives and
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living our best lives with our disabilities, our disability
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is always put in the forefront of our faces,
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which, quite honestly, we don't need.
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We know we have a disability.
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We know we're gonna face some challenges.
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We know we're possibly going to need
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hope for the rest of our lives.
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We don't need reminders.
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And so when we encounter things like this at
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colleges are just out there in the environment like
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this, it reminds us that oh if we didn't have
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a disability, these are things that we could do.
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So then it makes us sometimes feel bad for having a
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disability and having to live this life, because let me tell
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you, it is not an easy life to live, okay?
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There's things that go on beyond
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college, even in the workforce.
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And this is why I'm going to start having
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these episodes once a month, because these things need
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to be brought to light so that people don't
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feel like, oh, I'm just anomaly out there.
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And this is only happening to me. No.
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It happens to all of us.
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And I think if we start speaking up and we start
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talking about it and it is out there, things will change.
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I think that's one of the things that is the problem,
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and I think that's how change can be brought about.
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Because let's face it, these colleges out here
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today, they're all about diversity and inclusion, right?
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If we start dropping names, naming those names, and
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letting people know, like, hey, this college, even though
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they say they're about diversity and inclusion, here's what
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I had to go through when I got there.
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They will start changing the things that they do, and
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we won't have to go through the bureaucratic nonsense.
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One of my friends.
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Jessica Dalonzo
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She was just on here a few weeks ago
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talking about how she didn't have a bathroom in
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the area where she was going to school.
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So they had to make one for her because
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the bathroom that they did have that was handicapped
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accessible was all the way on the second floor.
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And the elevator kept breaking down
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so she couldn't get there.
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So sometimes she would have to wait till
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she goes home to use the restroom.
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And the crazy thing to me is we
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pay the same tuition just like everyone else.
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It's not like they're giving us a discount
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to say, hey, because you are not able
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to use the facilities to the best of
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your ability, heres a discount on your tuition.
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No, we're paying the same tuition as
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our able bodied counterparts, and yet we're
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not afforded the same opportunities, the same
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college or collegiate experience as everyone else.
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It's just absurd to me, and it's disheartening.
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And like I said, I think the only way
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things are going to change, dropping names of these
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colleges and letting people know that like hey, they're touting
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diversity and inclusion, but that is not what they're
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giving here's the situation that I had to go
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through when I went to this college, because this
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is an image that they're trying to uphold.
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But if we say like that this is not how it is
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at all, this is not my experience, they will definitely change
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it to, people will become more aware and put it out
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there and let people know like hey, this needs to change.
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That needs to change.
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And then maybe more of us will get to
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sit at the board and say, this is how
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you really bring about diversity and inclusion.
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And so that's why I'm so grateful that I have this
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platform, because now I can begin to shed light on this.
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You guys can share it around so that people will
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feel they're not alone, they will share their experiences.
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And the more of us that come out and
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speak on it and say like I experienced that
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too, the more we'll begin to change.
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And that's what I want this platform
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to be about, to create change.
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So if anyone out there knows someone that can
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help um my friend who's going through this collegiate experience
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right now from hell, I would greatly appreciate it.
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If you guys know any news outlets, please
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reach out to me at queensonaroll.podcast@gmail.com.
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Again, my email is queensonaroll.podcast@gmail.com.
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And I'm going to be doing this segment, like I
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said, once a month because there's a whole lot of
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other issues that need to be brought to light.
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And like I said before, I am just sick and tired
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of being sick and tired and I really need to start
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using this platform to shed the light because there needs to
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be a light shed on a whole lot of things.
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So tune in next month cuz I will be
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talking about another topic that is near and dear
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to my heart, which is how we're not provided
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the services in the workforce either, even though the
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ADA mandates that we get those services.
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