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In this episode my aunt Katrina sits down with me to discuss how having a positive attitude helped her defeat breast cancer. So Come Roll with Us!
Disclaimer: This was just my aunt Katrina's experience with battling breast cancer
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In this episode my aunt Katrina sits down with me to discuss how having a positive attitude helped her defeat breast cancer. So Come Roll with Us!
Disclaimer: This was just my aunt Katrina's experience with battling breast cancer
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And welcome back to Queens On A Roll podcast.
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This is Latavia here, and I have my
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lovely Auntie Katrina here with me today.
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Hello, Latavia!
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Hello, everybody!
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So happy to be here with you! Great.
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I'm so happy you're here, Auntie!
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So today I brought you on because I'm doing another
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installment of Defying the Odds, and I wanted you to
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talk about how you defied the odds and beat cancer.
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But also I thought it was perfect
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because it is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
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So are you ready to roll? Absolutely!
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Let's go!
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All right, let's roll!
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So, Auntie, how did you first
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find out about your cancer diagnosis?
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Well, Latavia, one day I was getting ready for work,
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and as I was dressing and putting on my brassier,
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I realized there was a knot on the side.
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And I ran immediately, trying to
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find out what the knot was. Wow.
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So you kind of self-diagnosed yourself a little bit.
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I know.
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Mom always told me you do those self breast exams.
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So is that what you did?
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Well, actually, I usually do the self breast exam
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in the shower, but this particular day, I was
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getting ready for work, and I felt it when
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I went to put on my brassier.
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And then I went back and I lie down and I put
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my fingers around just testing around, and I felt it again.
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And I realized at that time
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that, that was something foreign.
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I had not felt that before.
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So did you make an appointment immediately? And
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Who did you make an appointment with?
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So, initially, I called my primary care physician, and
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when I spoke to my primary care physician, she
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told me that she didn't have an appointment available.
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And I told her that it was important, very important
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to me to get a uh an appointment as soon as possible.
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Okay, and what did she say?
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So she was able to get
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me an appointment, check it herself.
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And I even you know fussed a little about that because
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I felt like, ultimately, she wasn't the individual that
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had to see it or handle it.
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So I immediately wanted to go somewhere um where a
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doctor could tell me or an oncologist or someone
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can tell me what exactly was going on.
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But she saw me, she felt the lump, and
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then allowed me to be referred to an oncologist.
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And when you got referred to
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the oncologist, what did they say?
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After I was referred to the oncologist, they wanted
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to have I believe that was a scan.
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The mammogram, the 3D mammogram.
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There were a series of tests
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that they wanted to perform.
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And what did that waiting for
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the test results feel like?
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Oh, Latavia I didn't wait.
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I was pushing through every obstacle (Auntie chuckling) when
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they said there was no appointment.
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I went to the office and
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I stood by waiting for cancellations.
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I was very, very eager to know and to find out.
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And I remember saying, timing is everything.
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Timing is everything, right,
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So you were definitely proactive,
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which is a good thing.
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I'm so glad about that.
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So when the test results finally did come back
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in that short amount of time frame, what did
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they say or what was the result?
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So I remember that the radiologist looked at it
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and he said, yes, there are two lumps there.
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Although I could only feel one, there were two lumps.
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And he advised that he had to do a biopsy.
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And that got me scared again.
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Oh my goodness.
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Oh my goodness. Auntie: My goodness
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What did the biopsy entail? Oh my Lord.
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I don't even want to scare people, but it was
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a long needle they had to uh insert into my breast.
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And that needle had a little thing on the end
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of it that actually clipped a piece of tumor.
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Cause ultimately we found out that it was
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a tumor and it was uh it was positive for cancer.
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So when they came back and they told you that
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it was cancer, what was going through your mind?
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How did you feel?
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Was it hard to process what was going on there?
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Well, I will say that I was very concerned,
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initially afraid, but I believe that you know I had faith
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to believe that whatever is going on, whatever it
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is, I was gonna come out fine.
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And I would stress the importance of keeping
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a positive attitude all the way through.
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No matter what stage they say, no matter what
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they diagnose or how grim it may appear to
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be, I stayed in faith and just kept believing
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I was gonna come out of it. Right.
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So what was the ultimate diagnosis?
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The ultimate diagnosis that I
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was triple negative breast cancer. Wow.
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And is that one of the rare forms
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of breast cancer or is it aggressive?
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I know it was one of the worst.
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I don't know if they would say it's a rare
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form because, you know, some people have positives and negatives,
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but definitely an aggressive form of breast cancer. Yes.
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And was it aggressive for you?
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I believe that from the first day I felt one lump,
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and when they actually did the exam, they found two.
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I would say it was aggressive.
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Did it go anywhere else in the body
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or did it stay in the breast?
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Eventually, after all of the testing was done, they did
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find that it was in two of my lymph nodes. Wow.
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What stage was it in?
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I was stage three.
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But the stage to me, I wasn't
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so much really concerned about the stage.
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I really was concerned about the fact that I was
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diagnosed with cancer, you know, even if they said one, two, three
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or four, I probably would have felt the same way.
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I was devastated and I was just trying to
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figure out how did this happen to me? Right.
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What was going through your mind?
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Was it like, oh, my God, I got
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cancer and this is going to be scary.
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I don't want to do chemo.
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What was going through your mind?
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How did you feel?
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What were you thinking to yourself?
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I was thinking that I needed
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treatment and I needed it immediately. Yeah, great.
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You were focused on getting better, which
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I think that's the point of it. Right.
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Focus on having a great outcome instead of focusing
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on the grim things that they may say.
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Because at the end of the day, ultimately, doctors have to
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give you the reality of what it may look like.
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And then all your treatment options, did they say
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what your treatment options were when you went for
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that first appointment or did you have to do
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a follow up appointment to find out?
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I went for the first appointment and
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they had all of the results.
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So being that they had all of the results as well
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as the test results from the biopsy, they were able to
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tell me what my treatment was going to look like and
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that it should start as soon as possible.
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(Instrumental Music)
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What was the treatment protocol?
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The treatment protocol for me was a medication very
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strong called Carboplatin and a medication called Paclitaxel
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I will never forget those two names as long as I live.
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So I had to take a series of one
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first and then a series of the other.
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Carboplatin was very difficult, it was the strongest of
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the two for me, and Carboplatin was the
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one that made me more sick and the
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Paclitaxel was more easier to deal with
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As a medication, it was less um side
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effects from the Paclitaxel for me.
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What side effects did you experience?
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I know everybody is an individual,
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so tell me what you experienced.
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Yes, so I would say Paclitaxel made me fatigued more,
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and the Carboplatin is the one that I would feel
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like did the most physical damage to me.
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Carboplatin was the one that caused me
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to feel like I couldn't eat.
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I was nauseous many times, and I believe
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that's how I lost so much weight.
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I really could not eat because
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of my stomach constantly being upset.
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I had severe constipation.
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I remember that not being able to
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go to the bathroom and at times
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becoming very nauseous, but never throwing up.
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And that was strange to me.
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I was constantly nauseous from the
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medication but never actually threw up.
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But times that I was able to eat, it
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was you know mostly soup or vegetables, very light things.
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I wasn't able to eat heavy meals at all.
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And I believe again that's what caused me to lose
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so much weight and I couldn't walk very well.
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I was weak.
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I was always sleeping.
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But Carboplatin, I think that one took
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the most toll on my body. Right, right. Wow.
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Did you end up losing your hair? Oh, my goodness.
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That was one of the worst for me.
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I started my dreadlocks in 2007. I believe.
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And I cut all of my hair down very low to start them.
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So I always called them my babies.
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I believe that one of the things that I
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even asked in advance about losing my hair.
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Because they said there was some type of heating
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cap that would help your hair stay on that
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you can have ordered and pay additional monies for.
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But it was no guarantee.
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So with that being said, I decided to
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just go through the process and see whether
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or not uh my hair would come out.
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I did pretty good for the first couple of months, uh
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but when that Carboplatin started oh, my goodness.
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That Carboplatin is the one that
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started causing my hair to come out. Just got weak.
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And I remember going shopping, and when I turned
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off the car, the first lock fell out.
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I was so devastated.
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And that's probably the first time that I actually
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cried, now that I think about it, that I
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actually cried even after getting the diagnosis, when I
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saw my hair begin to fall out.
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Why was that so hard for you?
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Well, first of all, nobody wants
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to be bald, that's first of all.
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And it was so hard for me because
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I had grown them, so now having them
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longer halfway down my back, that's one thing.
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I didn't want to see them falling out one by
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one by one after I lost two, that's when I
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decided that I would just cut off the rest myself.
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And did it feel liberating to cut off your hair?
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Or were you like, no way,
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this can't be happening to me?
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I wouldn't say it was liberating.
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I was still devastated to have to cut my hair.
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But again, I did pray and ask for faith
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that I would be able to go through the
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process and I cut them out one by one.
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But I preferred to cut it myself cuz I didn't
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want to see it continue dropping off, like, every day,
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a piece of hair coming out or a dreadlock being
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found under my pillow or in my bed.
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Just you know those things I just didn't want to face.
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That hurt me more, finding them and seeing them
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falling out than just taking you know the scissors and cutting
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them off one by one by one myself.
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And I still have them till this day. Wow.
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(Delayed Beat Sound Effect)
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Is there any part of the process that was
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really, really difficult for you, taking the chemo
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I would just say overall,
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that chemo was very difficult.
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It was difficult for me to get the port for them to
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put the port in under the skin over my right breast where
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they had to install it, and put the pieces together so that
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they can use that area to put the medication.
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So they took blood from there, they
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put the medication in that port.
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And it was difficult just having that
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under my skin all the time.
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It was also difficult just having chemo administered as often
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as I did, just having it running through me.
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It was not the best feeling, but I
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knew that it was going to help me.
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So I wanted it.
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And then again, I didn't want it.
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So, I don't know if you can understand that.
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Sometimes you know desperately you need to have
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something, but you really don't want it.
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And that's how I felt, because I knew it
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was gonna just make me sick, make me
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weak, and cause me to lose my hair.
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So those things that I mentioned before
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are the things that did happen.
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How many times a week did you have to do chemo?
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I don't remember.
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I think I had chemo once a week.
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Yes, once every week for several months.
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And then after that, I had radiation.
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I had a radiation that was part of my protocol.
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So after the Carboplatin and the Paclitaxel, I had to
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have radiation, targeted radiation that targeted the area where the
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breast cancer was so that I would be able to
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have that additional help to kill off any additional cells
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that might have been left behind after the chemo.
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So that was important.
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And that was, that was a better process, if you will. You know.
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Nobody wants to have radiation.
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It left me a little burnt after it all.
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But then they gave you a cream and eventually your
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skin comes back to its regular color and texture.
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So the radiation was the better of
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them all and it was less time.
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And I would say the radiation was um not
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so bad compared to all the rest.
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And what was it like sitting there getting the chemo?
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Did you feel like you had support
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even in the facility you were in?
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Yes, I think support is very important.
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The facility that I was in, you were allowed to,
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at that time, bring in other people with you, to
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sit with you, to talk with you, to encourage you.
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They also had other people that came in,
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like dietitians, a priest, different people coming around
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with snacks and things of that nature.
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You had a TV, you had a private room.
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So the treatment overall was good.
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It was in a good place.
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And you were allowed to have family
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and friends with you, one or two.
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And the people that they had coming around you for prayer,
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if you desire to have prayer, or even the social worker
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or anyone that could help you, they provided it.
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So I would say the services that I was provided
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were good services, and I am grateful for them.
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Well, that is great.
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That is definitely great.
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And it was great for you to feel like you had
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a great support system, because I think that's, number one, to
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feel like you have a village to hold you up when
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you feel weak and to keep you going, you know?
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So did you do anything else besides chemo?
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Did you try a different diet?
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Did you do a lifestyle change?
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What did you do?
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Well, I wanna say that we
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have a sister in the family.
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You know we call her Doctor Mary.
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And Mary had read these books about cancer and
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different individuals going through the process of chemo.
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And she shared with me, as well as
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the dietitian, that it was important to change
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the eating habits and to start juicing.
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And I think that was
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great information, very helpful information.
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And I think it's important that we
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understand that our eating habits must change. Dr.
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Mary, that's what we call her, dr. Mary.
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She had the juices and the organic vegetables
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that we had to take, the organic fruit
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that was important that we take. Uh
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You know, just letting us to know that it was
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important to change the diet by the books and
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the information that she had read and found out.
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So she was very helpful and instrumental
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in getting me started in that direction. Yup.
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And she talked a little bit about the
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protocol she used, which was the Gerson Therapy.
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But did you find it hard to kind of change
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your eating style, kind of change what you drink?
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And I know everything has to be organic.
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Did you find that part of it hard?
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No, I did not find it hard.
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I didn't like all of the juices because Mary can make
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a mean juice, (Auntie chuckling), but, (Chuckling) but I didn't like all of the juices.
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But I knew that it was necessary
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and an important part of my healing. You know
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The dietitian tells us that you know cancer loves sugar.
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So it's important that we omit sugar from our diet.
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And those juices, when you have those organic vegetables and you
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have that chard, and you juice it, and you have carrots
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and you juice it, and the Granny Smith green apples I
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don't think I ever even ate a Granny Smith green apple
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in my life, but today I love them. (Auntie laughing)
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So I think it's important that we be willing to
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make the change and realize that this is a part
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of our life for the rest of our life.
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And I also think it's important
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that we drink those juices.
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We eat differently.
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Now I'm out of treatment, I think, two years,
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and I'm not gonna say once in a
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while I don't have something I desire to have.
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But I am very, very still, very much serious about
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juicing and doing my very best to eat right.
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Once in a blue moon, I might go to
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City Island or somewhere to have some seafood, but
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I don't eat fried food till this day.
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I still don't have sugar in my diet till this day.
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I don't eat cakes and cookies
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and things of that nature.
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I still try to follow the dietitian's advice as
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well as do the juicing and things that uh that Mary
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found out about and teaches everybody else to try
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to help them live a better life.
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It's important that we eat and drink to live. Right.
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I think that is definitely well said.
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You did say you no longer have treatment,
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so does that mean you're in remission?
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They call it remission.
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They called it ringing the bell.
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They called it, they called it, that we're out of
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the woods, but not out of the woods.
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So again, in regards to remission, I am grateful
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and thankful so much that my faith brought me
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through, and I am grateful for that.
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I am grateful for my support system,
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my family members and loved ones.
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I am so grateful for all of them.
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And I am also grateful for just having the
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knowledge to know that it's a continual battle.
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It's a continual battle because they say, the doctors
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say that any time it can come back anytime,
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we can hear cancer is somewhere else.
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So there's no guarantee with cancer.
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But for me, there is a guarantee
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that I can make the difference.
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And I believe I make the difference.
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And I have an obligation to myself to eat right,
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to do right, and not reintroduce those things that I
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once loved so much, as the sweet teas or sodas
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or ice cream and cheese and things that are really
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ultimately not good for us because we understand today that
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most diseases start in our gut.
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So if we can change our intake of food and
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be mindful that they can ultimately hurt us in the
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long run, then we would realize that there are supplements
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out there that are important to take, there's vitamins that
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are important to take, there's juicing that we must make
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a part of our daily diet.
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And if we do these things, I believe the
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doctor didn't say, but I believe that we have
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a better chance at survival and a better chance
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at ringing that bell for the rest of our
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life and not just a temporary thing like remission.
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Remission can be temporary.
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But if we can do the right thing and get the strength
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and the faith to do what is right, even when it's difficult
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for us, then I believe that we can make it.
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We can all make it if we try.
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And I think that is very well said.
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And I think that's sometimes the hard part for people is that you know
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I have to do all these different things, change what I eat,
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I have to change what I drink, I have to change where
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I go, I have to change what I buy. Right.
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So they're so focused on the change.
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And sometimes people may feel like, oh, I'm changing all
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of these things in my life, all of these factors.
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Sometimes getting rid of things that I absolutely love
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to eat right so that I can live.
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But there's no guarantee that I'm
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gonna make it out, right?
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And it can always come back.
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So for some people it's like, welp, I might as
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well live, you know live my days out if that's all I have,
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or live my months out because all this changing I
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have to do, it may be for nothing.
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I know that wasn't your mindset, but can you
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understand why some people may feel that way?
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And what would you tell them?
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I can absolutely understand today Latavia why some people might
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feel that way, because we have seen it, right?
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We have seen some people change
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significantly and still they die.
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And that's the ultimate thing that we don't want to do.
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Nobody wants to die from cancer or any other disease or
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we don't even want to die when it's time to die
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because we understand that we will not stay here.
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Ultimately, we will all one day lead this earth.
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However, going through the struggle of disease,
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we don't want to do that.
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But if we're facing that, an average individual will say,
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well, let me eat what I want, let me do
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what I want, let me get all these things off
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my bucket list because ultimately I'm dying from this thing.
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And that's where we lose even faster and go down
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even faster because we already set our mind to death.
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I think it's important that we set our
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minds and our hearts towards life and living.
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And when we do that, then we have that zeal
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and desire to fight, to live, change, to live.
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So ultimately, even if it defeats me, I have done my
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very best for me and I know that in doing that,
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I cause myself to live a little longer, no matter what,
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no matter the ultimate end result, I changed the narrative.
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That I will live longer, I will get better and
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I will be here to see my greatgrandchildren.
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You put these positive goals in your mind and you go
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forward and you do what you need to do to survive.
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Because ultimately we wanna live. We all wanna live.
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So give it your best shot, go it
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your best way, live life to the fullest.
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And what does that mean for me?
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Eating my best, doing my best and not worrying
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about whether or not it's gonna come back,
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not worrying about when it's gonna happen. Just live.
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And if I could live and eat and drink my
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best for my gut, I'm gonna do it. Again.
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Very well said, very well said.
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I think I would second that.
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And I would add, I think you were able
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to keep that positive outlook too, because you are
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so strong in your faith and you do believe
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in the Lord and you believe in God.
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I think that helped you with
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keeping that positive outlook, right?
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Because God always says I come to give
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life and give it more abundantly, right?
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So rather than looking at the whole picture, which,
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trust me, the whole picture is gonna look grim.
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You know what I mean? Right. It's a disease.
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At the end of the day, doctors have
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to give you the best outcome, worst outcome,
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they have to give you the whole gamut.
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So taking it one day at a time, focusing
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on the positive, things that you wanna do
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when you get over cancer, all of that helps.
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Focusing on a higher power, whether that be
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God, whether that be Allah, whoever you believe
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in, just focus on the positive. Yes.
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And don't focus on the negative.
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With that being said, you
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will get overwhelmed sometimes.
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Was there any point in the journey
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for you, Auntie, where you were overwhelmed?
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I believe I definitely was
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overwhelmed during the chemo process.
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That was very difficult.
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It was a lot to you know to just take in and try to
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understand, because for the life of me, I just saw it
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as you know healing on one side and hurting you on another, right.
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Because it even kills good cells.
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So it was very overwhelming.
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So I think, like you said, it's important to stay
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positive, important to have faith, important to trust and know
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that on the inside of you, you have the power
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to fight, you have the power to stand.
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Even when I couldn't stand, even when I
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couldn't walk, I was determined to walk.
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I was determined to get that cane.
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I was determined to try to do some things on my own.
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Even when people tried to help me, sometimes
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I was frustrated even with the help.
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And I didn't always have the best attitude.
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You know, I had to go back and say, I'm
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sorry for what I did or what I said.
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I didn't always have the best attitude
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because of frustration and being overwhelmed.
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So I would say, even if you find
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your family members there, try to understand them.
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They're just in a bad place at the
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moment, but eventually they will understand that it
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was just you know taking a toll on them.
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But keep the faith, don't give up.
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Fight your way through.
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You can always reach out to Latavia.
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She's always here giving information and to assist us.
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And Latavia can always reach out to me.
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I'll be more than willing to assist and help her
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to encourage somebody to hold on, don't give up.
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Fight and stand strong.
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That is definitely well said.
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And that's one of the reasons why I do
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this podcast, because there's so many people out here
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with unique stories and unique journeys, right?
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And you have to at some point say, dag,
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it was their hope, it was their perseverance.
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All the people that I have had on my show
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at one point and the other was like, I'm going
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to beat the odds and I'm going to do this
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differently and I'm going to be maybe the anomaly, right?
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But as we continue to do this show more and
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more and what I love about it is people out
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there get to see you are not the anomaly.
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There's other people out here who are
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going through the same struggles as you.
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They are just sharing their story, hoping to uplift you,
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hoping to give you that courage to keep going.
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So I hope this show does that for you. And Auntie.
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What are you doing now, since you're in remission?
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What's going on?
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(Cartoon Stair Climbing Sound Effect)
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So I'm going to be having for the
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first time what we call a flagging event.
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And there at that flagging event, we will
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be just having cancer survivors come together, or
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those that are sick coming together.
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We'll be handing out sandwiches and we'll be flagging, just
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dancing around with flags and giving praise and giving thanks
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and trying to encourage somebody else somewhere else to let
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them know that they can make it too.
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Even in the struggle, you can get
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strength by telling somebody else your story.
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You can get strength by sharing and letting
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them see you running today where you couldn't
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run yesterday, and having the strength in your
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legs where we had no strength on yesterday.
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And we'll be flagging.
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We'll be sharing the message.
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This month, October, is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
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While there are many cancers, many diseases, many
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sicknesses, ultimately we can encourage each other to
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know that you can make it through.
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So that's my goal, that's my purpose now in life, to
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hold my brother's hands, my sister's hands, and share the information,
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let them know that they too can make it. Um
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My brother has been diagnosed with cancer.
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My best friend has been diagnosed with cancer.
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My other sister has been diagnosed with cancer.
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There's people around me in my church
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and other places that have been diagnosed.
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I am trying to encourage them to share information with
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them, to be a, a second Miss Mary that could tell
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them about Juicing and letting them know that you can
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make it, you can hold on, you can fight through.
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And that's my goal, that's my purpose.
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I never ring a bell and I will never ring the bell.
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I had victory, I know that within myself.
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I didn't ring the bell because there's others
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still suffering, there's others still going through.
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There's others who need to know that,
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that bell ultimately is still there.
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The bell will always be waiting to be rang,
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but our brothers and sisters that might ring it
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today, and then there's others that cannot ring it.
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So we hold on for them, we fight through
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for them, we encourage them, and we just believe
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all the way through and strengthen one another.
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And that's my purpose in life going forward.
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And I think that is super great,
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you know, rolling it back a bit.
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I want to say thank you so much for coming on,
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but also, truly, truly, truly, I am thankful because what people
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don't know, and we're gonna let you in on a
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little secret, y'all, is I asked my aunt to do.
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This episode with me.
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Like a couple of months ago.
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She was like, you know what? No.
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I'm sick of talking about cancer. I'm not gonna do this episode Absolutely.
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So is there any other way I could support you?
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Because I'm not gonna do this episode.
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So I was like, okay, Auntie, I understand why you don't
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want to do it, but can you enlighten us a bit?
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How come you didn't want to
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do the episode at that time?
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Well, the process was difficult and while
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I still have encouraged others, I don't
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really like to talk about it.
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I don't like to talk about cancer.
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I don't like to remember what I went through.
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I don't like to.
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And I still feel like that I don't like to
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remember what I went through cuz the struggle is real.
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However, the struggle for the next person, my
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next brother, my next sister, that's real too.
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And I just believe that I should share my story.
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I think God would hold me accountable to sharing my
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story with someone else, just to encourage somebody else and
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to let them know that they can make it too.
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And that's exactly why I wanted you to do this episode.
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I do recognize that it is painful to
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kind of go back to, but in sharing
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your story, trust me, you're uplifting.
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Somebody that is listening to and somebody that says, dag, well,
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if she did it and she made it through. Yes. and she
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now has this positive outcome, then I can do it too.
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Yes.
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(Instrumental Music)
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Now it is time for the quote of the episode.
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And I usually like to leave my guest to
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come up with a quote that like pretty much embodies
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their lives or, you know, something that they live
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by that they could pass on to other people.
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Let me see, Latavia I would say that each one
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teach one, each one help one, each one encourage one
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and realize that I am my brother's keeper.
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I think that is so great.
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I don't have anything to follow.
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That with Auntie you just shut it all down. (Auntie laughing)
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So on that note, everyone, thank you!
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Auntie: Thank you! Latavia: for coming on auntie
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Thank you so much for having me, Latavia.
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I'm so happy to be here. Latavia: I love you dearly Auntie: Love you too.
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Thank you so much.
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Latavia: I'm so grateful you are in remission
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and still here with us today.
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Yes, I am grateful too.
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So thank you again.
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Thank you everyone for sharing and subscribing.
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If you have any questions for my aunt, my mom,
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myself, or any of the other guests you have heard
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so far, you can send an email to queensonaroll. podcast@gmail.com.
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Again, my email is queensonaroll.podcast@gmail.com.
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I also have a patreon account
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that you guys can donate to.
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There's four tiers up there, so please pick one.
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I will drop the link in my YouTube, my
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Instagram, my Facebook page, everywhere you can find me.
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If you would like to support the show. Again.
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Thank you, Auntie.
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Again, thank you to my listeners out there!. Auntie: Thank you. Thank you.
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You guys are awesome.
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Please continue to run it up.
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Please continue to support the show.
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Please continue to subscribe and share.
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And we are rolling out.
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See you guys next week! Bye! Auntie: Thank you. Bye.
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