S2 Episode 12 Defying The Odds: Positivity Brought Me Through

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In this episode my aunt Katrina sits down with me to discuss how having a positive attitude helped her defeat breast cancer. So Come Roll with Us!

Disclaimer: This was just my aunt Katrina's experience with battling breast cancer

Transcript

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(Instrumental Music & Singing) Ooo Queens, Queens, Queens & Bells Chiming

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Hey! Everyone!

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And welcome back to Queens On A Roll podcast.

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This is Latavia here, and I have my

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lovely Auntie Katrina here with me today.

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Hello, Latavia!

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Hello, everybody!

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So happy to be here with you! Great.

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I'm so happy you're here, Auntie!

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So today I brought you on because I'm doing another

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installment of Defying the Odds, and I wanted you to

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talk about how you defied the odds and beat cancer.

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But also I thought it was perfect

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because it is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

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So are you ready to roll? Absolutely!

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Let's go!

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All right, let's roll!

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(Instrumental Music)

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So, Auntie, how did you first

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find out about your cancer diagnosis?

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Well, Latavia, one day I was getting ready for work,

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and as I was dressing and putting on my brassier,

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I realized there was a knot on the side.

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And I ran immediately, trying to

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find out what the knot was. Wow.

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So you kind of self-diagnosed yourself a little bit.

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I know.

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Mom always told me you do those self breast exams.

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So is that what you did?

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Well, actually, I usually do the self breast exam

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in the shower, but this particular day, I was

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getting ready for work, and I felt it when

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I went to put on my brassier.

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And then I went back and I lie down and I put

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my fingers around just testing around, and I felt it again.

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And I realized at that time

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that, that was something foreign.

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I had not felt that before.

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So did you make an appointment immediately? And

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Who did you make an appointment with?

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So, initially, I called my primary care physician, and

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when I spoke to my primary care physician, she

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told me that she didn't have an appointment available.

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And I told her that it was important, very important

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to me to get a uh an appointment as soon as possible.

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Okay, and what did she say?

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So she was able to get

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me an appointment, check it herself.

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And I even you know fussed a little about that because

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I felt like, ultimately, she wasn't the individual that

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had to see it or handle it.

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So I immediately wanted to go somewhere um where a

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doctor could tell me or an oncologist or someone

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can tell me what exactly was going on.

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But she saw me, she felt the lump, and

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then allowed me to be referred to an oncologist.

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And when you got referred to

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the oncologist, what did they say?

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After I was referred to the oncologist, they wanted

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to have I believe that was a scan.

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The mammogram, the 3D mammogram.

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There were a series of tests

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that they wanted to perform.

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And what did that waiting for

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the test results feel like?

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Oh, Latavia I didn't wait.

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I was pushing through every obstacle (Auntie chuckling) when

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they said there was no appointment.

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I went to the office and

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I stood by waiting for cancellations.

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I was very, very eager to know and to find out.

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And I remember saying, timing is everything.

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Timing is everything, right,

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So you were definitely proactive,

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which is a good thing.

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I'm so glad about that.

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So when the test results finally did come back

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in that short amount of time frame, what did

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they say or what was the result?

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So I remember that the radiologist looked at it

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and he said, yes, there are two lumps there.

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Although I could only feel one, there were two lumps.

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And he advised that he had to do a biopsy.

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And that got me scared again.

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Oh my goodness.

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Oh my goodness. Auntie: My goodness

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What did the biopsy entail? Oh my Lord.

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I don't even want to scare people, but it was

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a long needle they had to uh insert into my breast.

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And that needle had a little thing on the end

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of it that actually clipped a piece of tumor.

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Cause ultimately we found out that it was

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a tumor and it was uh it was positive for cancer.

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(Gasping sound effect)

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So when they came back and they told you that

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it was cancer, what was going through your mind?

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How did you feel?

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Was it hard to process what was going on there?

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Well, I will say that I was very concerned,

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initially afraid, but I believe that you know I had faith

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to believe that whatever is going on, whatever it

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is, I was gonna come out fine.

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And I would stress the importance of keeping

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a positive attitude all the way through.

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No matter what stage they say, no matter what

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they diagnose or how grim it may appear to

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be, I stayed in faith and just kept believing

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I was gonna come out of it. Right.

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So what was the ultimate diagnosis?

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The ultimate diagnosis that I

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was triple negative breast cancer. Wow.

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And is that one of the rare forms

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of breast cancer or is it aggressive?

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I know it was one of the worst.

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I don't know if they would say it's a rare

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form because, you know, some people have positives and negatives,

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but definitely an aggressive form of breast cancer. Yes.

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And was it aggressive for you?

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I believe that from the first day I felt one lump,

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and when they actually did the exam, they found two.

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I would say it was aggressive.

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Did it go anywhere else in the body

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or did it stay in the breast?

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Eventually, after all of the testing was done, they did

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find that it was in two of my lymph nodes. Wow.

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What stage was it in?

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I was stage three.

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But the stage to me, I wasn't

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so much really concerned about the stage.

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I really was concerned about the fact that I was

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diagnosed with cancer, you know, even if they said one, two, three

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or four, I probably would have felt the same way.

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I was devastated and I was just trying to

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figure out how did this happen to me? Right.

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What was going through your mind?

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Was it like, oh, my God, I got

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cancer and this is going to be scary.

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I don't want to do chemo.

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What was going through your mind?

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How did you feel?

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What were you thinking to yourself?

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I was thinking that I needed

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treatment and I needed it immediately. Yeah, great.

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You were focused on getting better, which

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I think that's the point of it. Right.

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Focus on having a great outcome instead of focusing

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on the grim things that they may say.

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Because at the end of the day, ultimately, doctors have to

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give you the reality of what it may look like.

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And then all your treatment options, did they say

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what your treatment options were when you went for

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that first appointment or did you have to do

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a follow up appointment to find out?

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I went for the first appointment and

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they had all of the results.

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So being that they had all of the results as well

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as the test results from the biopsy, they were able to

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tell me what my treatment was going to look like and

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that it should start as soon as possible.

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(Instrumental Music)

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What was the treatment protocol?

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The treatment protocol for me was a medication very

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strong called Carboplatin and a medication called Paclitaxel

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I will never forget those two names as long as I live.

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So I had to take a series of one

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first and then a series of the other.

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Carboplatin was very difficult, it was the strongest of

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the two for me, and Carboplatin was the

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one that made me more sick and the

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Paclitaxel was more easier to deal with

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As a medication, it was less um side

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effects from the Paclitaxel for me.

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What side effects did you experience?

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I know everybody is an individual,

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so tell me what you experienced.

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Yes, so I would say Paclitaxel made me fatigued more,

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and the Carboplatin is the one that I would feel

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like did the most physical damage to me.

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Carboplatin was the one that caused me

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to feel like I couldn't eat.

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I was nauseous many times, and I believe

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that's how I lost so much weight.

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I really could not eat because

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of my stomach constantly being upset.

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I had severe constipation.

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I remember that not being able to

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go to the bathroom and at times

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becoming very nauseous, but never throwing up.

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And that was strange to me.

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I was constantly nauseous from the

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medication but never actually threw up.

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But times that I was able to eat, it

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was you know mostly soup or vegetables, very light things.

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I wasn't able to eat heavy meals at all.

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And I believe again that's what caused me to lose

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so much weight and I couldn't walk very well.

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I was weak.

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I was always sleeping.

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But Carboplatin, I think that one took

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the most toll on my body. Right, right. Wow.

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Did you end up losing your hair? Oh, my goodness.

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That was one of the worst for me.

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I started my dreadlocks in 2007. I believe.

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And I cut all of my hair down very low to start them.

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So I always called them my babies.

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I believe that one of the things that I

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even asked in advance about losing my hair.

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Because they said there was some type of heating

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cap that would help your hair stay on that

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you can have ordered and pay additional monies for.

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But it was no guarantee.

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So with that being said, I decided to

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just go through the process and see whether

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or not uh my hair would come out.

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I did pretty good for the first couple of months, uh

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but when that Carboplatin started oh, my goodness.

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That Carboplatin is the one that

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started causing my hair to come out. Just got weak.

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And I remember going shopping, and when I turned

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off the car, the first lock fell out.

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I was so devastated.

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And that's probably the first time that I actually

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cried, now that I think about it, that I

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actually cried even after getting the diagnosis, when I

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saw my hair begin to fall out.

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Why was that so hard for you?

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Well, first of all, nobody wants

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to be bald, that's first of all.

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And it was so hard for me because

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I had grown them, so now having them

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longer halfway down my back, that's one thing.

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I didn't want to see them falling out one by

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one by one after I lost two, that's when I

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decided that I would just cut off the rest myself.

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And did it feel liberating to cut off your hair?

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Or were you like, no way,

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this can't be happening to me?

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I wouldn't say it was liberating.

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I was still devastated to have to cut my hair.

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But again, I did pray and ask for faith

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that I would be able to go through the

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process and I cut them out one by one.

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But I preferred to cut it myself cuz I didn't

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want to see it continue dropping off, like, every day,

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a piece of hair coming out or a dreadlock being

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found under my pillow or in my bed.

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Just you know those things I just didn't want to face.

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That hurt me more, finding them and seeing them

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falling out than just taking you know the scissors and cutting

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them off one by one by one myself.

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And I still have them till this day. Wow.

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(Delayed Beat Sound Effect)

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Is there any part of the process that was

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really, really difficult for you, taking the chemo

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I would just say overall,

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that chemo was very difficult.

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It was difficult for me to get the port for them to

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put the port in under the skin over my right breast where

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they had to install it, and put the pieces together so that

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they can use that area to put the medication.

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So they took blood from there, they

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put the medication in that port.

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And it was difficult just having that

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under my skin all the time.

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It was also difficult just having chemo administered as often

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as I did, just having it running through me.

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It was not the best feeling, but I

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knew that it was going to help me.

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So I wanted it.

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And then again, I didn't want it.

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So, I don't know if you can understand that.

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Sometimes you know desperately you need to have

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something, but you really don't want it.

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And that's how I felt, because I knew it

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was gonna just make me sick, make me

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weak, and cause me to lose my hair.

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So those things that I mentioned before

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are the things that did happen.

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How many times a week did you have to do chemo?

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I don't remember.

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I think I had chemo once a week.

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Yes, once every week for several months.

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And then after that, I had radiation.

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I had a radiation that was part of my protocol.

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So after the Carboplatin and the Paclitaxel, I had to

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have radiation, targeted radiation that targeted the area where the

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breast cancer was so that I would be able to

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have that additional help to kill off any additional cells

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that might have been left behind after the chemo.

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So that was important.

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And that was, that was a better process, if you will. You know.

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Nobody wants to have radiation.

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It left me a little burnt after it all.

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But then they gave you a cream and eventually your

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skin comes back to its regular color and texture.

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So the radiation was the better of

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them all and it was less time.

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And I would say the radiation was um not

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so bad compared to all the rest.

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And what was it like sitting there getting the chemo?

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Did you feel like you had support

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even in the facility you were in?

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Yes, I think support is very important.

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The facility that I was in, you were allowed to,

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at that time, bring in other people with you, to

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sit with you, to talk with you, to encourage you.

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They also had other people that came in,

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like dietitians, a priest, different people coming around

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with snacks and things of that nature.

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You had a TV, you had a private room.

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So the treatment overall was good.

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It was in a good place.

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And you were allowed to have family

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and friends with you, one or two.

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And the people that they had coming around you for prayer,

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if you desire to have prayer, or even the social worker

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or anyone that could help you, they provided it.

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So I would say the services that I was provided

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were good services, and I am grateful for them.

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Well, that is great.

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That is definitely great.

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And it was great for you to feel like you had

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a great support system, because I think that's, number one, to

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feel like you have a village to hold you up when

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you feel weak and to keep you going, you know?

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So did you do anything else besides chemo?

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Did you try a different diet?

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Did you do a lifestyle change?

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What did you do?

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Well, I wanna say that we

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have a sister in the family.

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You know we call her Doctor Mary.

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And Mary had read these books about cancer and

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different individuals going through the process of chemo.

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And she shared with me, as well as

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the dietitian, that it was important to change

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the eating habits and to start juicing.

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And I think that was

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great information, very helpful information.

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And I think it's important that we

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understand that our eating habits must change. Dr.

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Mary, that's what we call her, dr. Mary.

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She had the juices and the organic vegetables

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that we had to take, the organic fruit

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that was important that we take. Uh

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You know, just letting us to know that it was

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important to change the diet by the books and

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the information that she had read and found out.

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So she was very helpful and instrumental

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in getting me started in that direction. Yup.

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And she talked a little bit about the

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protocol she used, which was the Gerson Therapy.

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But did you find it hard to kind of change

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your eating style, kind of change what you drink?

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And I know everything has to be organic.

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Did you find that part of it hard?

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No, I did not find it hard.

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I didn't like all of the juices because Mary can make

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a mean juice, (Auntie chuckling), but, (Chuckling) but I didn't like all of the juices.

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But I knew that it was necessary

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and an important part of my healing. You know

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The dietitian tells us that you know cancer loves sugar.

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So it's important that we omit sugar from our diet.

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And those juices, when you have those organic vegetables and you

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have that chard, and you juice it, and you have carrots

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and you juice it, and the Granny Smith green apples I

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don't think I ever even ate a Granny Smith green apple

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in my life, but today I love them. (Auntie laughing)

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So I think it's important that we be willing to

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make the change and realize that this is a part

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of our life for the rest of our life.

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And I also think it's important

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that we drink those juices.

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We eat differently.

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Now I'm out of treatment, I think, two years,

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and I'm not gonna say once in a

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while I don't have something I desire to have.

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But I am very, very still, very much serious about

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juicing and doing my very best to eat right.

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Once in a blue moon, I might go to

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City Island or somewhere to have some seafood, but

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I don't eat fried food till this day.

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I still don't have sugar in my diet till this day.

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I don't eat cakes and cookies

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and things of that nature.

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I still try to follow the dietitian's advice as

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well as do the juicing and things that uh that Mary

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found out about and teaches everybody else to try

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to help them live a better life.

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It's important that we eat and drink to live. Right.

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I think that is definitely well said.

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You did say you no longer have treatment,

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so does that mean you're in remission?

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They call it remission.

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They called it ringing the bell.

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They called it, they called it, that we're out of

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the woods, but not out of the woods.

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So again, in regards to remission, I am grateful

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and thankful so much that my faith brought me

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through, and I am grateful for that.

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I am grateful for my support system,

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my family members and loved ones.

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I am so grateful for all of them.

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And I am also grateful for just having the

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knowledge to know that it's a continual battle.

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It's a continual battle because they say, the doctors

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say that any time it can come back anytime,

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we can hear cancer is somewhere else.

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So there's no guarantee with cancer.

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But for me, there is a guarantee

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that I can make the difference.

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And I believe I make the difference.

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And I have an obligation to myself to eat right,

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to do right, and not reintroduce those things that I

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once loved so much, as the sweet teas or sodas

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or ice cream and cheese and things that are really

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ultimately not good for us because we understand today that

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most diseases start in our gut.

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So if we can change our intake of food and

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be mindful that they can ultimately hurt us in the

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long run, then we would realize that there are supplements

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out there that are important to take, there's vitamins that

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are important to take, there's juicing that we must make

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a part of our daily diet.

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And if we do these things, I believe the

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doctor didn't say, but I believe that we have

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a better chance at survival and a better chance

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at ringing that bell for the rest of our

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life and not just a temporary thing like remission.

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Remission can be temporary.

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But if we can do the right thing and get the strength

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and the faith to do what is right, even when it's difficult

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for us, then I believe that we can make it.

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We can all make it if we try.

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And I think that is very well said.

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And I think that's sometimes the hard part for people is that you know

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I have to do all these different things, change what I eat,

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I have to change what I drink, I have to change where

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I go, I have to change what I buy. Right.

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So they're so focused on the change.

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And sometimes people may feel like, oh, I'm changing all

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of these things in my life, all of these factors.

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Sometimes getting rid of things that I absolutely love

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to eat right so that I can live.

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But there's no guarantee that I'm

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gonna make it out, right?

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And it can always come back.

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So for some people it's like, welp, I might as

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well live, you know live my days out if that's all I have,

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or live my months out because all this changing I

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have to do, it may be for nothing.

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I know that wasn't your mindset, but can you

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understand why some people may feel that way?

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And what would you tell them?

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I can absolutely understand today Latavia why some people might

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feel that way, because we have seen it, right?

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We have seen some people change

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significantly and still they die.

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And that's the ultimate thing that we don't want to do.

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Nobody wants to die from cancer or any other disease or

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we don't even want to die when it's time to die

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because we understand that we will not stay here.

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Ultimately, we will all one day lead this earth.

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However, going through the struggle of disease,

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we don't want to do that.

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But if we're facing that, an average individual will say,

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well, let me eat what I want, let me do

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what I want, let me get all these things off

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my bucket list because ultimately I'm dying from this thing.

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And that's where we lose even faster and go down

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even faster because we already set our mind to death.

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I think it's important that we set our

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minds and our hearts towards life and living.

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And when we do that, then we have that zeal

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and desire to fight, to live, change, to live.

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So ultimately, even if it defeats me, I have done my

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very best for me and I know that in doing that,

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I cause myself to live a little longer, no matter what,

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no matter the ultimate end result, I changed the narrative.

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That I will live longer, I will get better and

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I will be here to see my greatgrandchildren.

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You put these positive goals in your mind and you go

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forward and you do what you need to do to survive.

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Because ultimately we wanna live. We all wanna live.

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So give it your best shot, go it

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your best way, live life to the fullest.

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And what does that mean for me?

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Eating my best, doing my best and not worrying

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about whether or not it's gonna come back,

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not worrying about when it's gonna happen. Just live.

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And if I could live and eat and drink my

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best for my gut, I'm gonna do it. Again.

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Very well said, very well said.

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I think I would second that.

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And I would add, I think you were able

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to keep that positive outlook too, because you are

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so strong in your faith and you do believe

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in the Lord and you believe in God.

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I think that helped you with

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keeping that positive outlook, right?

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Because God always says I come to give

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life and give it more abundantly, right?

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So rather than looking at the whole picture, which,

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trust me, the whole picture is gonna look grim.

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You know what I mean? Right. It's a disease.

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At the end of the day, doctors have

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to give you the best outcome, worst outcome,

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they have to give you the whole gamut.

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So taking it one day at a time, focusing

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on the positive, things that you wanna do

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when you get over cancer, all of that helps.

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Focusing on a higher power, whether that be

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God, whether that be Allah, whoever you believe

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in, just focus on the positive. Yes.

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And don't focus on the negative.

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With that being said, you

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will get overwhelmed sometimes.

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Was there any point in the journey

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for you, Auntie, where you were overwhelmed?

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I believe I definitely was

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overwhelmed during the chemo process.

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That was very difficult.

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It was a lot to you know to just take in and try to

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understand, because for the life of me, I just saw it

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as you know healing on one side and hurting you on another, right.

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Because it even kills good cells.

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So it was very overwhelming.

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So I think, like you said, it's important to stay

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positive, important to have faith, important to trust and know

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that on the inside of you, you have the power

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to fight, you have the power to stand.

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Even when I couldn't stand, even when I

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couldn't walk, I was determined to walk.

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I was determined to get that cane.

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I was determined to try to do some things on my own.

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Even when people tried to help me, sometimes

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I was frustrated even with the help.

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And I didn't always have the best attitude.

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You know, I had to go back and say, I'm

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sorry for what I did or what I said.

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I didn't always have the best attitude

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because of frustration and being overwhelmed.

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So I would say, even if you find

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your family members there, try to understand them.

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They're just in a bad place at the

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moment, but eventually they will understand that it

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was just you know taking a toll on them.

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But keep the faith, don't give up.

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Fight your way through.

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You can always reach out to Latavia.

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She's always here giving information and to assist us.

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And Latavia can always reach out to me.

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I'll be more than willing to assist and help her

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to encourage somebody to hold on, don't give up.

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Fight and stand strong.

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That is definitely well said.

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And that's one of the reasons why I do

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this podcast, because there's so many people out here

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with unique stories and unique journeys, right?

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And you have to at some point say, dag,

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it was their hope, it was their perseverance.

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All the people that I have had on my show

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at one point and the other was like, I'm going

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to beat the odds and I'm going to do this

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differently and I'm going to be maybe the anomaly, right?

(29:17.5 - 29:20.0)

But as we continue to do this show more and

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more and what I love about it is people out

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there get to see you are not the anomaly.

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There's other people out here who are

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going through the same struggles as you.

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They are just sharing their story, hoping to uplift you,

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hoping to give you that courage to keep going.

(29:35.5 - 29:38.6)

So I hope this show does that for you. And Auntie.

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What are you doing now, since you're in remission?

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What's going on?

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(Cartoon Stair Climbing Sound Effect)

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So I'm going to be having for the

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first time what we call a flagging event.

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And there at that flagging event, we will

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be just having cancer survivors come together, or

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those that are sick coming together.

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We'll be handing out sandwiches and we'll be flagging, just

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dancing around with flags and giving praise and giving thanks

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and trying to encourage somebody else somewhere else to let

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them know that they can make it too.

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Even in the struggle, you can get

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strength by telling somebody else your story.

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You can get strength by sharing and letting

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them see you running today where you couldn't

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run yesterday, and having the strength in your

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legs where we had no strength on yesterday.

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And we'll be flagging.

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We'll be sharing the message.

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This month, October, is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

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While there are many cancers, many diseases, many

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sicknesses, ultimately we can encourage each other to

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know that you can make it through.

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So that's my goal, that's my purpose now in life, to

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hold my brother's hands, my sister's hands, and share the information,

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let them know that they too can make it. Um

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My brother has been diagnosed with cancer.

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My best friend has been diagnosed with cancer.

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My other sister has been diagnosed with cancer.

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There's people around me in my church

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and other places that have been diagnosed.

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I am trying to encourage them to share information with

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them, to be a, a second Miss Mary that could tell

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them about Juicing and letting them know that you can

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make it, you can hold on, you can fight through.

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And that's my goal, that's my purpose.

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I never ring a bell and I will never ring the bell.

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I had victory, I know that within myself.

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I didn't ring the bell because there's others

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still suffering, there's others still going through.

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There's others who need to know that,

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that bell ultimately is still there.

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The bell will always be waiting to be rang,

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but our brothers and sisters that might ring it

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today, and then there's others that cannot ring it.

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So we hold on for them, we fight through

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for them, we encourage them, and we just believe

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all the way through and strengthen one another.

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And that's my purpose in life going forward.

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And I think that is super great,

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you know, rolling it back a bit.

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I want to say thank you so much for coming on,

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but also, truly, truly, truly, I am thankful because what people

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don't know, and we're gonna let you in on a

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little secret, y'all, is I asked my aunt to do.

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This episode with me.

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Like a couple of months ago.

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She was like, you know what? No.

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I'm sick of talking about cancer. I'm not gonna do this episode Absolutely.

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So is there any other way I could support you?

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Because I'm not gonna do this episode.

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So I was like, okay, Auntie, I understand why you don't

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want to do it, but can you enlighten us a bit?

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How come you didn't want to

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do the episode at that time?

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Well, the process was difficult and while

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I still have encouraged others, I don't

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really like to talk about it.

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I don't like to talk about cancer.

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I don't like to remember what I went through.

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I don't like to.

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And I still feel like that I don't like to

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remember what I went through cuz the struggle is real.

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However, the struggle for the next person, my

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next brother, my next sister, that's real too.

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And I just believe that I should share my story.

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I think God would hold me accountable to sharing my

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story with someone else, just to encourage somebody else and

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to let them know that they can make it too.

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And that's exactly why I wanted you to do this episode.

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I do recognize that it is painful to

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kind of go back to, but in sharing

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your story, trust me, you're uplifting.

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Somebody that is listening to and somebody that says, dag, well,

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if she did it and she made it through. Yes. and she

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now has this positive outcome, then I can do it too.

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Yes.

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Now it is time for the quote of the episode.

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And I usually like to leave my guest to

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come up with a quote that like pretty much embodies

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their lives or, you know, something that they live

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by that they could pass on to other people.

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Let me see, Latavia I would say that each one

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teach one, each one help one, each one encourage one

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and realize that I am my brother's keeper.

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I think that is so great.

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I don't have anything to follow.

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That with Auntie you just shut it all down. (Auntie laughing)

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So on that note, everyone, thank you!

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Auntie: Thank you! Latavia: for coming on auntie

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Thank you so much for having me, Latavia.

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I'm so happy to be here. Latavia: I love you dearly Auntie: Love you too.

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Thank you so much.

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Latavia: I'm so grateful you are in remission

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and still here with us today.

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Yes, I am grateful too.

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So thank you again.

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Thank you everyone for sharing and subscribing.

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If you have any questions for my aunt, my mom,

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myself, or any of the other guests you have heard

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so far, you can send an email to queensonaroll. podcast@gmail.com.

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Again, my email is queensonaroll.podcast@gmail.com.

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I also have a patreon account

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that you guys can donate to.

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There's four tiers up there, so please pick one.

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Instagram, my Facebook page, everywhere you can find me.

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If you would like to support the show. Again.

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Thank you, Auntie.

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Again, thank you to my listeners out there!. Auntie: Thank you. Thank you.

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You guys are awesome.

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Please continue to run it up.

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Please continue to support the show.

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Please continue to subscribe and share.

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And we are rolling out.

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See you guys next week! Bye! Auntie: Thank you. Bye.

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