S2 QOAR Episode 16 Defying The Odds: My Fear Of COVID Prevented Me From Seeking Medical Attention

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In this episode, I sit down with Ms. Doretha and discuss how her fear of contracting COVID led to life altering complications. So Come Roll With Us!

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Hey everyone! and welcome back to

Queens On A Roll podcast.

This is Latavia here and I have Ms. Doretha here with me today.

Hi, Ms. Doretha

How are you doing?

I'm doing well. How are you?

I'm doing fine as well.

So today I asked you to come on the podcast because

I want everyone to know how you defied the odds.

And I just wanted to share your story with the world.

Are you ready to roll?

Yes, I am.

Alright, let's roll you.

(Instrumental Music)

So, Ms.

Doretha, how did you defy the odds?

Well, Tavia, that is a really big question

because defying for me means a lot.

(Delayed Beat Sound Effect)

This is the story.

It was during the pandemic.

And you know how in the pandemic the news and

everybody else had people scared about going out and staying

away from people and not having people breathe on you

and not having people come close to you or talk?

Around you, you know, and how people were getting sick,

and then they were telling people about underlining issues and

what to look for and what to stay away from.

And if you had this and if you had that, they wanted

you to stay away from people so that you don't get sick.

So me, I think I fell into the category of

everything that came under the sun when they were talking

about being sick and how your sickness and your illness

could make you sicker and you could die from it.

People were dying from it.

So I was already feeling sick already because I had

diabetes and I had high blood pressure and I didn't

want to go out into the air with people.

I didn't want to be around no one.

I didn't want nobody coming to my house.

I didn't even want my family coming to my house.

Nobody did

I want coming to my house because I was

scared that anybody might have had this pandemic disease.

That's what I called it, the pandemic disease. Wow.

And you know what, Ms. Doretha

I am so sure so many people can relate

to that feeling of being so scared to contract

the disease that they kind of isolate themselves from

everyone in the outside world because of the fear.

So I thank you so much for sharing that.

(Cartoon Stair Climbing Sound Effect)

Now I'm in my house and I'm not

gonna tell you that I was always

feeling great because I've never, always felt great.

It begins to take a toll on you and

then you sometimes you say, well, you know what?

I'm just feeling a little weak.

I'm just gonna relax myself

I'm not gonna do anything.

Well, this kept happening day after,

day in, day after, day out

I got weaker, weaker, weaker

tired, more tired and more tired.

And I was sleeping sometimes I was sleep

and I would sleep for more than days.

And this is why I love my pet, because my pet

sometimes, I think saved my life, because my pet would nudge

me and start crying for me to wake up.

And when I wake up it be like two or three days later. Wowww

And I sometimes be like, aw, man you know.

I never you know called nobody and told

anybody how I was feeling.

My brothers and them they call me on

the phone and said, hey, you okay?

I would say, always say yes, because

I wanted to hide it from everybody.

Didn't want nobody to know how I really was

doing because again, Imma say I was

scared because of this pandemic and what they were

saying was going around in the air.

So I was petrified.

And one morning I woke up and I couldn't see.

(Gasping Sound Effect)

And when I woke up and couldn't see, I didn't

do like a normal person would do, and  get panicky

and run out and run to the hospital, call the emergency.

I didn't do that.

What I did was you know I sat down and I was

like, aw, man, maybe its something just wrong with me.

Maybe I need to go back and rest my eyes and try

to rub my eyes and see if my eyesight will come back.

Well, I did this for like, 15-20 minutes and

I did that, and I kept saying, okay, let

me adjust my eyes, let me adjust myself.

Now I adjusted myself.

Now I'm up because now I have the full

attention of my own self because I'm up and

I'm thinking, what's going on with me? I can't see.

I can't see.

I was a little upset, but

still, I didn't wanna panic.

I didn't wanna call nobody,

and that was the bottom line.

And I wasn't gonna call nobody.

And I did this for almost two months and a half.

Walked around outside blind.

And when I say blind, I mean exactly what I mean.

All I could see was black and gray

and sometimes not even gray, just black. Latavia: Wow! Ms. Doretha: and

not even, sometimes everybody would be in a

Checkety color or not even a Checkety color.

It would just be like you see

on the TV in black and white.

It was a black and white but how the

  fuzzy line run through your screen and you

get that zzzzz sound and there's nothing there. Latavia: Wow Ms. Doretha: Being that

I know there's nothing there, but I know there's

something there because I always said that I had

tunnel vision because I go and do what I

needed to do and come back straight home.

If I needed to run somewhere, I get in

the cab and tell the cab where I'm going.

I know where I'm going.

And I go there, and I come right back.

And nobody was ever the wiser on how I was feeling.

Until one day I didn't answer the phone for two days.

And my brother came and almost took the door off

the hinges it because he was knocking down the door.

And when I got up, I was

like, hey, what you doing here?

He was like, Yo, sister.

He said, I've been knocking on this door.

We've been calling and calling. Nobody answered

And when I opened up the door and he

looked at me, my own brother started to cry.

He was like, sis, what's going on? Are you okay?

And I said, I'm fine. I'm fine now.

Mind you, I can't even see myself.

I don't know what I look like.

And I'm like, no, I'm fine.

There's nothing wrong with me. I'm fine.

He's like, no, man, you losing too

much weight, and you broke out with things,

and I don't know what's going on.

With your arms, with your face, with your body.

Everything is small.

Could you go to the hospital?

I said, no, because they say, Stay away from

the hospital if you're not really sick, sick.

Stay away from the hospital.

I said, I'm not sick, sick

He said, yeah, man.

He said, this constitutes you being sick sis

You're losing weight. There's something wrong with you

At this point, I still didn't even tell

my brother that I couldn't even see him. Wow.

You did everything from memory.

I did everything from memory.

I didn't ask nobody to help me do anything.

When it was time for me to dial a

phone, I would go to the phone and put

the talk to text on the phone, right?

This is how I would do it.

I would put the talk to text.

and hit the button on the phone.

and let the phone, dial the numbers that I had to dial.

These are the things that I was

doing to myself without getting help, right.

(Cartoon Descending Stairs Sound Effect)

So then when I finally went into the hospital, you know they do

the regular routine check up with your mouth and

breathing, and they take the scope, and they

look in your eyes and when they looked in my eyes

He was like, Ms. Mack,

And I said, yeah, he said, can you see me?

And I said no. He said, Are you sure? I said, I'm sure.

He said, I know.

He said, Because your eyes are fully covered, we need

to do a scan and see what's going on.

He said, how long has it been since you've seen?

I told him, I said, Doc, well,

it's been at least two months.

I've not you know really seen somebody.

You know and I've been inside the house because of the pandemic, and they

tell you to stay away from people and he said Ms. Mack

You should have been came in here.

And I said, yeah, I know you get

scared about this and about that, and you

just don't want to be around people.

And that's how I was, I was living in a shell within

myself, right, not counting on the faith that I was supposed to have

had, not believing in God like I was supposed to

You know God gives us the senses to do what's right.

Even when it's concerning our bodies, we're still supposed

to do what's right, and I didn't do that.

You understand?

Yeah, but I think it's understandable because the COVID had

us in this paralyzed state where it's like, oh, no,

I can't be around this one because I don't wanna

 catch COVID, because I do have a disability myself

I didn't wanna catch COVID, so I

was very selective about who I had over.

And we didn't have anybody over.

Nobody was coming in the house.

And the only time that I was able to hang

out was when they said the numbers were going down

in the summertime, and you can hang out outside.

My mom said, you got a few friends over to

hang out outside, but they better not darken the doors.

So, (Ms. Doretha laughing) it put people in this paralyzed fear.

So I can definitely understand how you were feeling.

and like, nope, I'm not going to

the hospital cause Covid's in the hospital. Yeah.

I guess it was something that I

was going through you know with the fear.

Sometimes I get scared about being around people.

I get scared about people breathing on me.

I get scared about people coming close to me.

I get scared about people touching me.

I get paranoid about certain stuff like that. You know

And so when the doctor says, can I

just keep you here for, like, a day?

And I say, okay, I don't mind

you keeping me here for a day.

I said, but I'm going home, right?

He's like, yeah, but he hesitated.

We say yeah, right.

So then he says, well, we're just going to do

a routine check on you and stuff like that.

And a nurse came back, and when they came back

this time, it was like a bunch of them. You know. They came back.

They was like, Ms. Mack, how do you feel?

And I said, I feel fine. They was like, Are you sure?

And I'm like, yeah, I'm sure. I feel fine.

They was like, nahhh, I don't think you feel fine Ms. Mack

 you only have, like,

1% magnesium in your body.

Do you know that you could die?

Latavia: What??? Ms. Doretha: I'm like what?

They're like, yeah, there's only 1% of magnesium.

You have no magnesium.

You have no calcium.

You have nothing in your body to really

ward away the things for you to have

a stroke, to have a heart attack.

You have zero in your body, and you got to

really stay here so that we can help you.

They immediately put me on a heart floor to monitor me.

They didn't want me to move.

They didn't want me to get up on my bed.

They didn't want me to be over exerted.

They didn't want me to do anything.

They just wanted me to lay there and

let them pour the bags and bags and

bags of magnesium that they were giving me.

And they were giving me magnesium.

 every, I think it was like every 4 hours after

they give me a little bag and they'll come

back and they'll give me another bag.

Then after they gave me that bag, they'll

come back and give me another bag.

And I used to say, well, why are

you keep giving me all of this stuff?

I don't need this stuff.

This is not for me.

They was like, no, this is for you.

Because you could stand up and you

could pass out like you could die.

And I'm sitting there like, oh, okay.

cause it took me a while to really think about it.

I'm like, wow, I could have died the

whole time I was in my house.

Then the eye specialist, which they had to

have an eye specialist to come in.

And the eye doctor said to me,

how long has this happened to you?

And I said, well, it's been about two

months since I've been actually you know seeing people.

Or actually seeing.

She said to me, she said, you

took this long to come in?

I said, no, honestly speaking, doc,

I wasn't even gonna come in.

If my brother hadn't made me, I probably would have laid

in my bed and died and would have drifted off to sleep.

And she said, I'm glad you came.

She said, you had a stroke in your eyes, Ms. Mack.

(Gasping Sound Effect)

She said, I'm really like flabbergasted.

She's amazed how I'm still able to like sit there, talk

to her, be up like nothing is going on. Latavia: Yeah

in my mind, I'm scared because

everything is running through my mind.

Like, this is crazy.

Like this cannot be happening.

You know I'm saying I'm blind.

I may go blind forever.

So for them to hit me with the double, I

can't see, with the stroke and with the kidney disease.

So that's really when my faith started to come into action

for me and for me to pull from that strength.

cause they said, well, we're gonna

 do emergency dialysis because your

kidneys, they're not functioning at all.

And she's like, how many times did you

go to the bathroom and stuff?

And I'm like, oh, I used the bathroom. Which I'm lying.

I wasn't going to the bathroom regularly like I was

supposed to, but I didn't feel like I needed to

tell the doctor that, you know what I'm saying?

Why didn't you feel like you needed to tell her?

Because at that point, it was my business.

I didn't want the doctor in my business.

Like, listen, this is my body.

I know when I go to the bathroom and

if I'm doing a number two versus a number one,

then I'm fine, you know what I mean?

And I don't wanna stay in the hospital.

I'm pretty sure the doctor was just looking

at me like, I really need help.

So you know at this point you know when they told me

I had to do emergency dialysis.

I was just I don't even know what to tell you.

I don't even know how I reacted.

I think I broke down and I cried

by myself sitting down on that bed.

And you know what, Ms. Doretha,

That feeling is totally understandable.

Sometimes life hits us like a bowling ball, and we

don't know how we're gonna make it through, right?

But we have to trust in the universe, a

higher power, God, Allah, whoever you believe in, that

he is going to get us through.

But I can totally understand that feeling of,

dag, I just got over this hurdle.

Now you're putting another hurdle in front of me.

I don't know how I'm gonna make it through.

But what else happened?

You have me on the edge of my

seat with this story, and then when the

head nephrologist came in and he said, Ms. Mack?

And I said, yeah.

I was sitting on the side of the bed.

He said you can't be Ms. Mack. I said yes, I am.

He said, Ms.

Mack, he said, Now, Imma tell you, by the looks in

your file the way I read your file, and to come here

and to see you sitting up on the side of the bed,

I don't even know what to say to you.

He said, I read your medical history and

your medical file, and he said this is not normal,

like, for you to be sitting here.

This is not something that you should be doing.

That's what he said to me.

I said, God work, doesn't he? Right. Right.

So I was like, So what does that mean doc?

Does that mean I can go home?

He said, no, no, no you're a long

way from going home right now.

I was like in the hospital for, like, a month and a half. Wow.

It was like a month and a half by the time I

got out the hospital, and I wanted to just go home.

But I guess that month, sitting there, laying in that

bed, listening to what all the doctors had to say.

And I was laying in that bed you know with no eyesight,

and the nurse came in, which was real funny.

She came in and she said, oh, Ms.

Mack, because of the pandemic we gone turn

The TVs on for free.

I said, I don't know why you turn on the TV.

I can't see it.

She said, oh, Ms. Mack, just listen to the TV, right?

And I said yeah, okay. Right.

But when she turned on the TV, for that split second, it

looked like my vision went in and it went back out.

And then I heard the Lord speak to me

the same way I turned that TV on, the

same way I could turn your eyesight back on.

So you got to remember who you believe and know the

faith, and you got to act on it and know that

God is able to do a lot of things for you.

And at that time, I wasn't focused on the

spiritual things of who God is in my life.

I wasn't focused on that.

The only thing that I was focused on was,

man, how long do I gotta live?

What if I never see again?

What if I could never go no place else again?

Do I want to be a burden

on anybody, on my husband, on anybody

No, I didn't wanna do that,  aww man.

I said, my livelihood is about to be taken from

me, and my livelihood, for me, is working, being able

to get out and drive a car and seeing the

sights because that's the one thing I love to do was

get out into the street and just drive around and see

people and see nature and stuff like that.

That was my thing.

I love to do that, and I still

love to get on the road and just

drive. Latavia: right, it put everything into perspective for you.

Like, I coulda lost it all. Yeah.

I think when we become weighed down with all the

medical terminology and everything that happens medically, we forget that you know

we serve a higher power and we forget our faith

and we forget to hold on to it because everything

just seems so big and out of order. You know. Yes.

It doesn't feel like you can handle it. Yes. Correct.

(Race Car Driving Sound Effect)

How did you feel when you began to sit back and

think about everything you might not be able to do?

What was that feeling like?

It put me in a depressed state.

I was giving my own self a pity party.

I was down in the dumps, but I was just

asking God to come just take me now, because my

body was drained and it was tired and felt like

a heavy truck was just sitting on my shoulder, sitting

on my chest, and I couldn't move.

My body was so heavy and it was so

filled with water that my mind was losing  it.

I don't know if you can understand when I say

You know when you over eat, and you be like, ughhh wow, I'm tired.

I felt like that and then some because it

felt like everything was just simply just crushing, crushing,

crushing, crushing and stifling and stifling and stifling and

just taking it away bit by bit by bit.

Taking a breath here, taking a

breath there, taking a breath here. I felt it.

I was willing myself to do it, Latavia: right.

I think what you felt is so normal, though, because you

were so independent and you were used to doing things on

your own, and now you had to sit back and think,

like, all of that could be taken away.

So I definitely can understand why

you would feel that way.

I can definitely understand that.

And I think the reason why you felt so tired,

because my grandmother had uh kidney disease as well, is that

when your body begins to fill up with that fluid.

They say, like, you become very lethargic,

very sleepy Ms. Doretha: Yea Latavia: and you know you can't really move, and

it's all that water on your body.

It's like literally weighing you down. Exactly.

And that's how I felt.

That's exactly how I felt.

I'm thankful to God, I'm telling you.

I've had these symptoms for a while.

(Story time Sound Effect).

Me and my nephews were in a car going down south to

pick up grandma, and I said I wanted to ride with them.

And it was like, auntie, can you drive?

I say, yeah, I can drive. Don't worry about that.

I'm okay.

which I was sick then, but I wanted to go.

And when we got to Virginia, I couldn't breathe.

I thought it was a panic attack.

They stopped the car on

the highway, called the ambulance.

And when the ambulance got there, they did the check.

They said, oh, you just having a panic attack.

I'm like a panic attack.

I said, I've never had a panic attack.

I don't know what you're talking about

because I don't have panic attack.

I was like, you sure?

I said, could you check my sugar?

Oh, your sugar is fine.

I'm looking at them like, my sugar is fine.

Are you sure my diabetes is fine?

She's like, Your sugar is normal.

So I'm like, oh, okay.

Maybe it is a panic attack.

I told the kids, I said, Just do me a favor.

I said, stop to the nearest gas station and give

me a Tylenol PM so that I could sleep.

Because if I go to sleep, I'm not

gonna have to worry about anything else.

So then we still went down south

and they asked if I wanted them to turn around

I said, no, don't turn around.

Just keep going. They said, are you sure? I said, I'm sure.

I'm not gonna stop at the hospital or nothing.

I'll go to the hospital when I come home.

I didn't even go to hospital when I came home.

(Instrumental Music)

Why did you avoid it for so long

Was it just a pandemic or you just didn't wanna know?

I just don't like going to the hospital

because I've been struggling with this diabetes for

as long as I can remember.

And every time I go with the diabetes,

the doctor always tells me to go to

the hospital, and I never come home.

And I said to myself, if I go to

this doctor and this doctor tell me I gotta

 stay what you gonna do, then Doretha

How you gonna pay your bills, then Doretha

That was my thing at that time. I was by myself.

I didn't have my husband.

I'm like, how you gonna pay your

bills Doretha if you in the hospital?

You missing days from work.

How you gonna do that? Right

 but it never dawned on you, like, how can you

go to work if you're no longer here?

No, my thing was I'll sleep when I'm dead.

And besides that, I work with autistic children.

And I had a patient that really counted on me.

You know, she counted on me for being there.

And I used to make sure I mean sick or not sick.

I used to make sure I was there all the time, even

if me and her was just to go to the mall together.

Right.

Now I understand why you avoided the doctors more

often, because you're a caretaker, Ms. Doretha: Yes Latavia: and caretakers tend to

neglect themselves and take care of others.

But we also gotta learn that if

you wanna caretake for other people, you

gotta make sure you in tiptop shape.

We have to definitely shift that mind frame

of I gotta go to work.

I gotta take care of my loved ones.

I gotta take care of people I work for,

because if you're not in tiptop shape, you're not gonna

 be able to take care of anyone. Ms. Doretha: Right.

(Delayed Beat Sound Effect)

How did it turn out?

Well, it turned out for the better for me.

I was losing the weight like I was supposed to.

The best thing that turned out for

me was me getting my eyesight back.

I was overjoyed, let me tell you.

And I went into the hospital before Thanksgiving for the

first eye surgery, and the specialist said to me, oh Ms.

Mack, I'm gonna do the surgery for you, but

I'm not gonna make any promises that you'll be

able to see because you had two strokes on your

eyes, and the cornea and the retinas are damaged.

Your eyes are really damaged.

And she said, If I can get you some eyesight

back, you'll at least be able to wear corrective lenses.

I'm like, Listen, I don't care what you do.

I guess I gotta do, what I gotta do. You know

I said, you think I'd be able to see?

I'm not gonna tell you, you are,

and I'm not gonna tell you, you not.

But she reiterated to me that you

had the two strokes in your eyes.

I'm Like, yeah, yeah, yeah go head lady keep going.

Go ahead with the two strokes.

You don't gotta keep telling me I had two strokes.

You don't gotta keep telling me that.

And you had the diabetes and the high blood pressure.

Not keeping your diabetes under control and not

keeping your blood pressure under control, you know,

those are the causes of the stroke.

That's the cause of you not being able to see.

And I told her, I said, listen, I said I don't care.

I said, Doc, you just go ahead and

you do what you gotta do.

I said, God'll  do the rest. that's all I could tell you, she

said, I'm not gonna do both.

I'm only gonna do one, Ms.

Mack, because you gotta be able to see.

I said to her, okay, well, you do one,

and I wrestle with the other one. You know

And I went in a week later I went back

for them to take the coverings off of my eyes.

And she said, oh, Ms.

Mack, keep your eye closed, and when I tell you to

open up your eyes, you tell me what you see.

She said to me, she said, okay, Ms. 

Mack, you can open up your eyes.

She said to me, she said, now you tell me what you see.

I open up my eyes.

And I started crying immediately.

And I said, I see Jesus and I see you.

I ain't tell the Doctor I see her first

I said, Listen, Doc, I see Jesus and I see you.

And the only thing I could say was, thank you, Jesus.

Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus.

Standing there in that doctor's office.

Thank you Jesus, and the doctor

she was just looking at me. She said, Ms. Mack, are you okay.

I said, I can't even begin to tell you how good God is.

I said, My eyesight is back, even

if it's just one of them.

I went back a month later and they did the next eye.

And when she did the next eye, they did the same thing.

And they did the surgery, and I came back a couple of

days later and she said, um I'm gonna take this eye

bandage off and you tell me what you see.

I said, I see Jesus, and I see you.

Now I see Jesus with both eyes instead of one.

Cuz when God opened up my eyesight, he not only

opened up my eyesight in the physical, but in the

spiritual mind for me also, you know, because I began

to think, if he could give that doctor enough knowledge

to fix me, what else can't he do for me? Exactly.

(Cheering Sound Effect)

So what did they have to do during the eye surgery?

They went in and they reconstructed the retina

and gave me new lenses in my eyes.

It's just like a cataract surgery, but they went in

and they stitched up the cornea in the back of

my eye because it was bleeding back there.

And then they took and they tied and burned and closed

up a socket in the back because it was bleeding too.

And then they went in and did

the lens correction on my eyeballs itself.

So they gave me different lenses for my eyes, and

they actually gave me the 2020 vision back again. Latavia: Wowww!

Yes.

And look at faith and what belief

does in God or your creator.

Look at what that does.

So he turned it all the way around for you.

Yes, I'm very happy.

How's the kidneys going?

It's a project for me because I'm learning how to deal with 

it, you know how to cope with it, how to deal with it. You know

What do I look for, what am I feeling for?

It's got a lot of stair steps in stage four renal.

That's what I have, stage four renal.

And I'm not gonna tell you that

I'm okay with it, because nobody's ever.

Okay with having to deal with dialysis.

I mean, I'm not okay with getting stuck by two needles.

That's all I'm not okay with

cuz I don't like needles.

My grandma used to say the same thing.

I'm tired of getting stuck with those needles. Yeah.

But everything else,  you know I'm coping with a

lot of things, and I'm learning to

actually not take everything to heart.

A lot of time, dealing with this has taught me

to calm myself down a little bit more, think about

things a little bit more rational, and try to do

what's right with what I put into my body. Right.

How long have you been doing dialysis now?

It's been a year and a half.

They say it takes like, two years, three

years to get on a transplant list.

And I did a year and a half, and I was able

to get on transplant list a year and a half early.

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So I'm on already on the transplant list, and

I've done a lot of testing already, which

I've done everything under the sun that they

put your body through rigorous testing and stuff.

The only thing I think is wrong with me right

now, Tavia, is me putting stuff back into my body

that don't belong, like them cakes, cookies, and sweets.

Oh, boy.

And when the kidney disease

took over, the diabetes left.

So what I'm just trying to do is get over this kidney

disease and just wait on that transplant list for the next you know kidney

to come knock on my door, or ring my phone. Right.

Your story is just so inspirational you know, and I'm glad

you decided to share it on this podcast so

everyone can hear it, cuz it's definitely inspirational.

What's in your future?

What do you wanna do for your future

now that you have a new lease on life?

Well, the next thing that's in my future. You know what?

I can't wait to get my kidney, cuz I know

God is gonna bless me with one so soon.

Then after that, I'm gonna go on a vacation.

How about that?

Oooo Where  you gonna go?

The vacation of my dreams is

down home, back down south, (Ms. Doretha laughing) I'm laughing.

Because then people think, oh, you

wannna go to Hawaii?

You wanna go this place, you wanna go that place?

I wanna go back down south to my

mom's house and sit on her porch and put

my feet up and take in the good sun.

That's my vacation. That's what I like to do. Latavia: I thought you would have said

Hawaii, too. Or the Bahamas.

I was gonna say pack me away.

Nooo, (Ms. Doretha laughing) I'm really more of a country girl

because I like peace and quiet 

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So now it is time for the quote of the episode.

What's one quote that you live by?

The quote that I live by is faith is the substance

of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.

Why do you live by that quote, because without

my faith, I don't think I would be here.

And I would say that your faith and your belief

in God has helped you to defy the odds. So, Ms.

Doretha, I thank you so much for coming on!

It was a joy to have you!

It was a joy being here.

I had a wonderful time.

Thank you so much!

Thank you to everyone that has subscribed to

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And we're rolling out.

Bye Ms. Doretha!  yay!

Goodbye, Tay.

Have a good one!

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